Sunday, May 31, 2009

We Have A Winner!!-- Plus New Polls Posted

Congratulations to Ted and Karron, who won May's B&C History Blog Poll Contest by just "1" correct answer. Their winning percentage was 75%-- with 15 out of 20 questions answered correctly. Russ was right there, in answering 14 out of 20 correctly, and had closed the gap-- in getting the last 2 questions right. Red was the color of the True Crime mag cover, in the B&W photo. And that famous group photo of Dallas Sheriff's Dept. officers, was taken the day "after" Sowers-- in Smoot Schmid's office. I hope all who participated in May will participate again, and that more will join them-- in this friendly and fun battle of B&C knowledge. 8 new B&C Poll Questions are up, to kick off the festivities for June. So have at 'em.

I encourage all who enjoy the B&C History blog, to search out the polls on the right side-- and participate in the voting. If you also wish to be entered in the running for a B&C prize, to be awarded at the end of June-- please e-mail your answers for each group of polls, to That's the same address to contact me via e-mail, if you wish. Please record your answers in written form, rather than by assigning letters or such-- for each chosen answer. For your votes to be counted, they must be in "before" answers are revealed, at the end of each polling period. A minimum of just 10 votes per month, are required to qualify for prizes. "Boots" and I are back at it, in forming some new "killer" questions. So watch out gang-- and best of skill to all.

Thanks as always

Saturday, May 30, 2009

U.S. Bureau of Investigation Special Agent L.A. Kindell

I promised you new and unseen photos, of some of the historic individuals I reported on in my talk at Gibsland. I hope this was worth the wait. This is a photo of U.S Bureau of Investigation Special Agent Lester A. Kindell-- taken in January of 1930.

As always, my profound "thanks" to FBI Historian Dr. John F. Fox Jr.-- for being such a great friend to the history of Bonnie & Clyde, and for providing me with this wonderful photo. I think some of these photos being unearthed now at the FBI, are even rare to them. So much so, after John found this photo for my use in Gibsland-- he said he was planning on posting this pic on the FBI's website. In addition to Kindell, I had asked John for photos of Dallas SAC Blake and New Orleans SAC Whitley-- so perhaps more pics will be forthcoming. As information on Kindell is quite hard to come by, I couldn't be more pleased-- that this great olden photo of Special Agent L.A. Kindell still exists.

U.S. Bureau of Investigation Informant Bailey Tynes

Also as promised-- here is likely the very 1st photo, of Barrow cousin and Bureau informant Bailey Edwin Tynes Sr. ever released to the public. This photo of Bailey was taken in Waco, Texas. My sincere thanks, to the Tynes family, and in particular Laura, Mark, Daryl and Dennis-- who have been "so kind" and helpful-- in contributing family info and photos of Bailey and others. I will soon post "remarkable" family held revelations, "not" found within the FBI files-- concerning this now known and most intriguing figure, from the history of Bonnie & Clyde. Hold onto your hats, because to paraphrase Paul Harvey-- just wait until you hear "the rest of the story".

Bailey Tynes photos Copyright
© 2009 by A.W. Woodward, with all rights reserved. Tynes photos may be reproduced only by permission-- along with credits given, to the Tynes family and A. Winston Woodward. Many thanks for your cooperation and understanding, concerning these historic photos.

Friday, May 29, 2009

B&C History Poll Contest Winner for May,
To Be Announced--

Don't look now, but it's almost that time. Time to announce the winner of the B&C History Blog Poll Contest for May. I'm a bit worn out from Gibsland, but I'm re-grouping-- and will provide a final tally and announce a winner soon. I have a cool prize from the festival, which I will award to whomever had the best percentage of correct answers.

Then-- it will be time for all new B&C polls, for your pleasure and enjoyment-- and toward June's contest. So stay tuned-- and get ready for many more and challenging B&C polls.

Thursday, May 28, 2009

"Greetings" To All-- World Wide

I'd like to welcome the many new followers of the Bonnie and Clyde History blog-- which now extends to 8 countries worldwide. In just a short time, this blog has reached a great number of individuals and entities-- both interested and "passionate" in the history of Bonnie & Clyde.

My thanks to all for your support-- and for your interest in this history!!


Answers To Questions Re: "The Street Girl"--
And Rekindled Message Board Vindictiveness.
Most Unfortunate-- But Nothing New

Steve Haas has posted questions re: Bonnie Parker's lost poem "The Street Girl" on another message board, which were forwarded to me. As some may be aware, I do not participate on Blanche's Hangout. As such, I'll be happy to respond to Steve's questions here. Steve wanted to know, where "The Street Girl" originated-- and what significance the drug references relating to hop and poppies were within it's verses?? There is no knowledge I am aware of, as to where "The Street Girl" was penned or originated. Based on the provisions of Blanche's Last Will and Testament which are known, this rare poem may have been Blanche's, and thus passed down to Billie upon Blanche's death-- or may have been Billie's all along. Which ever circumstance was so, I can tell you-- although this poem surfaced within Blanche's estate auction-- "The Street Girl" was in Billie's possession at the time of Billie's death.

The references to hop or juice of the poppy, I can only assume are standard references in regards to hop as being opium, and juice of the poppy referring to one of the opiate drugs-- likely opium or heroin. They also could have implied a reference to Morphine which Bonnie was believed to have used. I don't feel there's much doubt, that Bonnie used drugs including Morphine and Amytal after Wellington-- likely to ease her intense pain from injuries, which left her in nearly a crippled state. With both Billie and Blanche having passed-- beyond what is known, I would think it unlikely much more can be learned about the origins of this remarkable work. I personally consider "The Street Girl" Bonnie's best poetic effort.

I've read Debbie Moss's response to you Steve. Although her comments echo some of my thoughts-- I find her approach and tone unduly cynical. In addition, there are aspects re: this poem perhaps she is unaware of, which should be known-- in order to form a more complete opinion re: it's origin and authenticity. In addressing your concerns, Deb seemingly diminishes 2 key burdens of proof within forensic document examination-- which are important and evident regarding "The Street Girl". First, the provenance of this poem "is" known, and very solid. "The Street Girl" was in Billie's possession at the time of her death-- which makes it a family held artifact. As far as it's ownership, Bonnie was known to have been close to Billie, but was said not to have been so close to Blanche.

According to Marie Barrow, at least a dozen Clandestine family meetings were held with B&C. The last of these meetings is documented to have occurred on or about May 10th, 1934. Billie was photographed having attended the family get together near Sowers in November of '33, well after Blanche was captured in July of that year. Billie was also summoned to help Bonnie, and was present with the Barrow Gang, while they were hold up at Fort Smith, prior to Dexfield Park. Based on the content of the poem, and taking into account the greater number of opportunities for Bonnie to get this poem it into Billie's hands-- although without certainty, it may be more logical to suppose "The Street Girl" may have been Billie's. Its also my understanding, Billie wanted little from Blanche's estate-- which may be another clue re: this poem's ownership.

Secondly, Bonnie's signatures apparently written on the verso of "The Street Girl"-- provide enhanced credence for it's authenticity. Although to a CDE, it's not in the best form to compare handwriting to signatures, the "Balmy Summer Evening" passages-- the partial poem attributed to Bonnie, could be brought to bear, in comparison to "The Street Girl" scripts. This snippet of Bonnie's (said) poetry, is also believed to have come from a family source. I would find it remarkable, if "The Street Girl" could be shown, not to have been penned by Bonnie. In the previous response provided to Steve, it was implied that Bonnie's signatures on this poem don't really matter, as only the dead really know the truth re: this poem's authenticity. Well-- based on now years of experience in discerning the signatures of Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow-- I'm here to say, Bonnie's signatures on this poem "of course", and most certainly "do" matter. The importance of such is obvious-- as her scripts present on this document would prove, that Bonnie herself was in possession of this poem at some point.

Also in support of "The Street Girl"-- are the numerous references to drug use. These references depict a virtually assured reality within Bonnie, as noted by physical evidence recovered by law enforcement at the time-- as well as eye witness accounts expressed by W.D.Jones, regarding Bonnie's use of drugs. Another important element here, is the fact "The Street Girl" was typed-- which was in keeping with virtually every other known example of Bonnie's poetry. Exhaustive searches have been conducted by myself and others over the years-- in an attempt to find handwritten examples of Bonnie's poems. The first evidence I have of these searches dates back to 1938. Despite all the looking, unfortunately-- no credible handwritten samples of Bonnie's poetry have been found.

Unlike "The Prostitute's Convention"-- which Jeff Guinn didn't know the correct provenance for, and in reality had a weaker provenance-- "The Street Girl" has much more going for it, as likely a Bonnie work. I feel Guinn misused the juicy temptation to use "The Prostitute's Convention", in an apparent effort to sensationalize Bonnie Parker for his book. What other conclusion can logically be drawn?? Unfortunately, there's been a human an historical toll to this lack of caring and diligence. By using this unsubstantiated poem, tying it to Bonnie Parker, and deeming it's content somehow reflective of Bonnie's morals-- Guinn apparently succeeded (whether intended or not)-- in having altered (sullied) Bonnie's reputation. In having painted B&C in less favorable terms than many authors before him-- I would hope this lack of historical diligence, was not in any way deliberate. None the less, Bonnie is now often labeled a prostitute, based on references within Guinn's book-- fueled by "The Prostitute's Convention".

Within the Tidwell poems auctioned by Bonhams in 2007 which included "The Prostitute's Convention"-- 5 of the 10 poems were known poems of folklore, said "not" to have been written by Bonnie. To me, this further weakens the likelihood of Bonnie having authored "The Prostitute's Convention". Of course she could have authored this work. However this "mixed" grouping of poems, along with curiously-- all having been hand written without a mistake or correction, together with an interesting but questionable provenance-- all add up to me, as citing a lesser likelihood of authenticity than "The Street Girl". I had the opportunity to speak with Jonathan Davis at the B&C Ambush Festival. He was gracious in confirming a fact of which I was already aware-- that Marie Barrow was not in any way, a source of provenance for "The Prostitute's Convention" as Mr. Guinn claimed. If only Bonnie were alive or would have kept a diary-- we might know for sure, whether she authored any of the Tidwell poems. But alas we have no such advantage-- so all we can do is try and make sense, of the clues we do have. However unlike "The Prostitute's Convention" with it's possible weaknesses in authenticity-- I feel support for "The Street Girl" as being an authentic Bonnie Parker poem-- is strong.

Having perhaps detected some subtle digs, directed my way within the response to Steve and his questions on the Blanche board-- I will again state my feelings in saying, I find such expressions a disappointment. The reality is, with my experience in having spent now 3 years investigating the handwriting and signatures of Bonnie and Clyde, apparently without predecessors in this regard-- and in collaboration with renown forensic experts-- which did include working with "The Street Girl"-- I would likely be a good source of educated opinion, regarding this element of B&C history. The vindictive attitudes sometimes expressed, by some who fancy themselves as being irrevocably "in the know" regarding this history, I feel is most unfortunate.

Re: Blanche's Hangout, I wish it well. However I'm not the only example, where freedom of speech was banned there-- when viewpoints expressed, ran contrary to the whims of a few-- who control that B&C bastion of limited expression and childlike games. As David Byrne once said in the Talking Head's song-- "I ain't got time for that now".

At least here, I can make the comments I do. Something is materially wrong, when expressions regarding the debate and enjoyment of this history, are limited, discouraged or distracted. There are no such limitations or issues here. As such-- please feel free to express your views regarding B&C history openly and with candor. I welcome your comments and expressions.

Many thanks for these questions re: Bonnie's poem "The Street Girl" having been relayed to me. I'm happy to try and help re: all matters Bonnie & Clyde-- whenever I can.

Note: Freda Dillard has commented correctly that both "The Street Girl" and Suicide Sal, contain references to the island (by the bay)-- which could be references to Alcatraz-- and also Helen of Troy, which appear to be references to beauty. This commonality of thought within both poems-- could well add to the reality of "The Street Girl", indeed being an authentic Bonnie Parker work. I myself have no doubt. Nice going Freda. Thanks so much for your input.

Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Gibsland 2009. If Only There Were 36 Hours
In A Day-- And 10 Days In A Week!!

I hope all will enjoy the photos that follow, of The Bonnie and Clyde Ambush Festival-- which occurred this past weekend in Bienville Parish, Louisiana. Tommy Methvin and I had planned to post pics from the proceedings, in as close to real time as possible. What we failed to count on, was the sheer lack of time to do so. Whether it was the Tres Amigos historical adventures (some literally were)-- to the highways, byways and LA woods, in search of answers to B&C mysteries-- or meeting with friends and folks regarding the festival-- time just seemed to melt away. By the time we got out bearings, the weekend and week were over.

I don't even have pics from the Festival's Lorraine Joyner Memorial Historian's Meeting re: any of the participants, other presenters or myself. If anyone who was there has photos to share, please let me know. A record setting 185 B&C historians and keenly passionate aficionados, attended this years stimulating and insightful meeting. Also, if anyone has pics of festival happenings, and would like to show them here-- please e-mail to I'll be glad to post as many as I can. All seem to agree-- this year's B&C Ambush Festival was a huge success. So please take the time to view and enjoy, the festival photos.

Gibsland 2009-- Exploring Bonnie & Clyde Haunts

Gibsland 2009-- At The Marker

Gibsland 2009-- The 75th Anniversary Weekend