During my recent hiatus, I would look to view key word entries used to access The B&CHB. Along with many thoughtful inquiries which I often respond to-- as usual, there were more than a fair share of questions regarding Bonnie & Clyde sexual rumor. Sometimes these questions seem asked, as if this blog somehow provides some bastion of support for that kind of thing. Well unless someone can show me viable proof of such rumors having a basis in reality-- no-- this is actually a place to dispel such meddlesome innuendo.Nonetheless-- you've just gotta love many of the questions asked by people searching in the dark, for some semblance of Bonnie & Clyde sexual enlightenment. In keeping with my tradition of addressing B&C sexual innuendo in a forthright manner-- I present examples of questions and comments advanced by some in grasping at sordid straws-- and offer historical viewpoints within lighthearted responses.
Why couldn't B&C have sex??
I wouldn't bet on that having been the case-- and if Clyde were around, I wouldn't let him know you're wondering.
Was Clyde Barrow afraid of women??
I don't know-- perhaps Bonnie, Eleanor or Grace would've answered that one best. Clyde also seemingly had good relationships with his sisters and mother. Go figure.
Did Bonnie have sex with the gang??
Which one??-- the 5 member gang, expanded post Eastham gang-- or some version near the beginning or end. It's hard to explain the STDs in both B&C, but in 1930's America-- their malady was at record levels. The STDs prove sexual activity-- but apparently no one who knew Bonnie, described her in a nefarious way. Any Bonnie sordid reputation, seems to have been advanced post ambush.
Bonnie & Clyde gender
Is there a question here??
Why do people think Clyde was gay??
Ah-- that is the question. Thank you.
Tijuana Bible gay
That's a new one.
In B&C was Clyde gay?? Impotent??
I would suppose if the later were true, the 1st wouldn't matter. You forgot sterile. A tough combo to experience-- which I personally don't believe any of which may have applied to Clyde. For both medically and statistically-- from what I've learned concerning Clyde's teenage illneses, when compared to the odds of those experiences causing permanent harm-- I tend to discount the claims of Clyde's inabilities in these ways.
Bonnie & Clyde Hot Sex
OK-- but I thought they couldn't have sex.
Bonnie & Clyde hope for America
Not a B&C sexual question/comment-- but Wow!!
Risque innuendos regarding guns
Have you reached out to anyone, for help concerning this??
Clyde pencils
My goodness-- what does this mean??
B&C bisexual Guinn
With all respect-- I really don't think he might know.
Bonnie, Clyde, W.D. Jones sex
One big happy family??
B&C psychological profile
Again unrelated to B&C sexual rumor-- however "best of luck".
Bonnie Parker sex habits
I would think those who could have revealed any info of that sort for sure, both perished without doing so. Also given the spirit of the day, it was unlikely such personal info was ever disclosed. Thus anything published post death in the crime mags etc., would almost certainly be invented-- and framed toward sensationalism. Hey-- some are still doing that today. Gotta sell those books.
Who did Bonnie & Clyde eat??
A Freudian slip of the fingers??-- or perhaps
the grand champion of B&C sexual rumor quotes.
My favorite anyway.
I poke a bit of good-natured fun here, in an attempt to raise the bar above the fluff-- & encourage more individuals wondering about B&C, to concentrate on more serious B&C concerns. But a little light hearted commentary sometimes isn't a bad thing. My long standing challenge still stands-- for anyone anywhere, to please provide any reasonable proof to verify any Bonnie & Clyde sexual rumor. After all, facts are facts-- and rumors are called such for a reason.
I find it remarkable, that I can't get even "one" of the multitude of people who inquire about B&C sexual rumor-- to leave a comment explaining why they're fascinated by these somehow vital but unfounded rumors?? Perhaps someone will be brave enough to explain the lure of these feelings-- even though there's no credible evidence to support such claims.
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I don't spend a whole lot of time thinking about B&C's sex lives, but the whole STD thing is fairly easily explained without having either Bonnie or Clyde sleeping with other gang members... Clyde had had relationships with other women before he met Bonnie, and Bonnie had been married. Back in the day, there really wasn't very much one could DO once they had contracted an STD rather than to go on to spread it to someone else!!! If Clyde's pre-Bonnie experiences left him with an STD, he most certainly would have passed it on to her, and the same for Bonnie - even if her "dating" didn't involve sex, she more than likely slept with her husband, and considering how much Bonnie complained about Roy being away from home, it wouldn't be impossible for Roy to have contracted some form of STD, which he then passed along to Bonnie, and which she then passed along to Clyde. It is rather interesting to look at ads in very old newspapers - a good deal of ad space was devoted to products which PROMISED to cure what ailed you, whatever that might be: Unwanted pregnancy, STD's, and failing manhood were three of the things that seemed to be great causes of concern in the 1930's, and while these ads swore up and down that they could fix you up, there really wasn't much that could be done back then. A quick shot of penicillin would have done B&C a lot of good, but they died long before it was available!
Hi Cindy--
Many like to rationalize the circumstance of a B&C STD, to both support the likelihood of B&C sexual rumor-- or conversely, defend the possibility of them having had Gonorrhea for years. The later approach would thus quash the rumors, in feeling it wouldn't have been unusual for this disease to have been present in both of them at death.
But as the consequences of inaction, concerning this STD over a long period of time would've likely been too severe-- concerning Bonnie-- I've thought to return to the Roy Thornton days for explanation, was too long a time to have expected Bonnie to remain untreated, and still have had a noticeable case in May of '34.
For Clyde, although he too had been in the company of others in prior years-- for me, the same thought process applies. It seems that for years to have passed without relief or treatment-- somehow seems unlikely.
Interestingly, Billie was singled out as having been intimate with a number of gang members. If so, how this would have impacted Bonnie or Clyde I'm not sure-- unless some would care to take the possibility of these rumors to extreme.
Just as with so many B&C mysteries, too many decades have likely passed-- to find a satisfactory answer to this question. The stigma of having an STD in the '30's was not good for your reputation. Many looked down upon those in such a circumstance, and consequently help was apparently not as easy to get as today. Thus I would doubt records could be found, concerning such a sensitive and personal issue.
From what I've learned, Sulfonamides and drugs like Acriflavine were used to treat Gonorrhea prior to Penicillin becoming the norm in the early '40's. This particular STD was fairly common, and in the '30's was peaking in occurrence. This happened again in the '60's-- and even now, Gonorrhea is the 2nd most commonly acquired disease yearly-- with a new and apparently dangerous resistance to modern antibiotics.
I remember reading that Bonnie believed she was suffering from rheumatitis, which she attributed to sleeping in the cold and damp - it's interesting because one of the consequences of untreated gonorrhea can be infection of the joints by the bacteria, resulting in painful joints. It's possible that if either Bonnie or Clyde became sterile at any point, that could also be attributed to untreated gonorrhea. As far as damage that could be done in the extreme long-term... well, there really wasn't an extreme long-term for B&C, was there?!
There are a whole lot of sexual rumors going around about B&C and folks involved with them, but the rumor that they had STD's is pretty well based in fact - however, I don't think that the Barrow Gang spent all their time passing their diseases around!
Hi Cindy--
Bonnie was known to have been finished with Roy in early 1929. It's just my feeling for what it's worth, in having investigated the consequences of Gonorrhea for a BP pregnancy angle-- but at least for Bonnie-- I would think going 5 years with Gonorrhea from the time of Roy Thornton, would have been unlikely. Prolonged and untreated Gonorrhea, could have been problematic both from the viewpoint of sterility-- and also to have possibly affected a Bonnie pregnancy in another important way. That's a idea I'm working on, in seeking further clarification.
According to Dr. Carroll Rich who told me he directly, that he heard it face to face from Dr. James Wade-- both B&C had Gonorrhea when they died. I don't believe there's much doubt about that. However, I also believe in your assessment concerning the extent of hanky panky for B&C within the gang.
Therefore, logically it's a very good question-- how both of them would have experienced the same malady concurrently, if they were true to each other?? It is possible-- should one of them have been infected 1st, they could have infected the other.
Ray Hamilton of course had a link although it was for less time than most realize-- to Mary O'Dare, who was actually Mary Pitts by that point. Seemingly not the most loyal of women, and reportedly a woman of the night-- or at least seemed to have the reputation for sleeping around. Billie Mace was also thought to have been a bit of a hellion-- and was reported to have had relations with more than one Barrow Gang member.
There are numerous possibilities in trying to sort all this out-- and I would think we're never going to be able to know for sure anyway. It's just interesting to me (but not surprising I suppose)-- that so many jump to the conclusions they do concerning B&C sexual rumors.
Unfortunately, the problem in trying to dispute them-- is the same problem in trying to learn of them. Few if any facts to work with.
I'm still fascinated and perplexed by the question, "Who did Bonnie and Clyde eat?"!!!
You just can't make this stuff up!!
I made an uneducated guess that Bonnie was bi-polar, manic depressant with a tendancy of nymphomania. I do not believe that Clyde was homosexual or impotent. Instead, he realized that Bonnie needed more attention from more than one male.
So you ask why didn't Jones or Henry speak of the sex? In 1930's it was taboo to openly speak of such things. And, to tarnish the reputation of Bonnie would make them appear ugly.
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