tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post6704319498882496173..comments2023-11-23T03:26:19.410-05:00Comments on Bonnie and Clyde History: At What Cost Truth-- Regarding Bonnie & Clyde History??A. Winston Woodwardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18305418204334632255noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-34108609030351602011-02-05T23:35:27.592-05:002011-02-05T23:35:27.592-05:00Jim--
There's more believed known now than ha...Jim--<br /><br />There's more believed known now than has been published, and I've spent considerable time over the past few years trying to sort this out. I don't believe stress has much to do with this. There are more clues evident now, than just a short number of years back-- including a statement said made by a Barrow Gang member about Bonnie's pregnancy, and where B&C were going to deal with it. <br /><br />Elements of a Bonnie pregnancy??-- are not just about what we think we've known in the past. They're now about more than has been learned previously-- and from multiple unrelated sources.A. Winston Woodwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18305418204334632255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-5412231785074783722011-02-05T22:19:14.247-05:002011-02-05T22:19:14.247-05:00Dear Winston,
Re: Was Bonnie Pregnant on the day ...Dear Winston,<br /><br />Re: Was Bonnie Pregnant on the day she died?<br /><br />Lets examine what we know--she reported to several Methvin family members that she was pregnant. Jordan was told of this statement. However, she also may have been suffering from stress.<br /><br />Stress, whether it is caused by a dangerous situation, relationship problems, difficult work or other external factors, can wreak havoc on the menstrual system. This is because when the body is placed under stress, it secretes cortisol. This hormone diminishes the release of estrogen and progesterone, which are the hormones necessary for regular menstrual cycles to take place.<br /><br />If she were pregnant, I believe the morticians would have broadcast that news as well as the family to create greater sympathy for Bonnie's untimely demise.<br /><br />Just my humble assumption--your friend, JimJim from Atlantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931502200126242741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-27637788441220336482010-11-27T04:07:51.680-05:002010-11-27T04:07:51.680-05:00Although I certainly appreciate your comment, I mu...Although I certainly appreciate your comment, I must politely disagree with your analysis. Rhea Leen herself (whom I respect greatly)-- within interviews and as told to some of us personally-- has admitted to having a limited knowledge concerning much to do with B&C History. And as far as a Bonnie pregnancy being old-- I suppose that determination is in the eye of the beholder.<br /><br />From my point of view, next to inquiring of the ambush-- the mystery concerning a Bonnie Parker pregnancy?? may be far and away, the most inquired of B&C wondering of the past 76 years. And as such-- that topic cannot be ignored, and is well worth investigating. Also I find no disrespect, in continuing to search toward a conclusion.<br /><br />I've been looking into this question for close to 2 years now, and believe there is enough evidence to make a run at trying to learn the truth. And based on what I've learned, in no way am I willing to dismiss out of hand-- the possibility that Bonnie was indeed pregnant when killed. I feel to do so, because "anyone" says so-- is being terribly short sighted concerning this history. Open mindedness is better than close mindedness when considering possibilities within history-- wouldn't you agree??<br /><br />There is some compelling contradictory evidence, which could trump the families beliefs concerning what they feel to be true concerning a Bonnie pregnancy. I say let the chips fall where they may-- and without an inequitable weight being assigned based on family affiliation. That seems the fairest way to look at this.<br /><br />In truth, the family explanations concerning the lack of possibilities for Clyde & Bonnie to bear children-- lack specifics and verifiable evidence. What exactly was the circumstance or procedure performed on Bonnie when married to Roy Thornton?? Was she trying to become pregnant??-- or was she pregnant at that time?? To believe a reported Blanche interview-- Bonnie was never pregnant prior to Blanche being captured. That of course leaves open the possibility for ambush time. Also who actually tested Clyde, to determine his inability to conceive based on the 2 fairly benign maladies he experienced-- which even in the 1930's, resulted in not as large a result of sterility as many have believed?? Perhaps it was just assumed Clyde became sterile as a teenager?? But of course W.D. might disagree.<br /><br />Will the smoking gun ever be found, to definitively say whether or not Bonnie Parker was pregnant when killed?? I'm not sure, but that moral dilemma concerning the ambush-- is also of great importance to this history.<br /><br />I would say for those truly disinterested, or who are perhaps worn out on this subject-- I can respect your point of view. However I'm sure you'll contribute greatly to, and enjoy many other B&C topics of interest along the way. Thanks for your civility-- and thanks for your comment.A. Winston Woodwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18305418204334632255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-47047811190145911892010-11-27T00:17:59.852-05:002010-11-27T00:17:59.852-05:00One thing is for sure regarding Bonnies being preg...One thing is for sure regarding Bonnies being pregnant and that is, we will never ever know the truth, I do not believe she was pregnant but that does not mean everyone else { who ever that may be} will stop trying to find out otherwise, it is a dead issue, all those involved are dead so anything said now is just mearly hearsay and cannot be proven to be true,the only real person who can shed light on this { Rhea leen } said it best, a positive NO she was never pregnant and thats good enough for me, if anyone would know it would be her, but there will always be people who like to push the ticket and act as though Rhea leen does not know what she is talking about, I am not one of these people, I fully believe her, I mean really, if she was ever pregnant in her life we as well as everyone else would have known about it by now, I can understand how some folks would like to think they have found some new info on this but the cold hard truth is there is none, and if you think you have some then the burden of proof is on you, good luck, I love to research B&C info that is within reason, but this subject is getting a little old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-58238767627008487482010-11-16T12:09:20.633-05:002010-11-16T12:09:20.633-05:00"Sometimes, the lone wolf can cover more grou..."Sometimes, the lone wolf can cover more ground-- than a pack of even the best of friends and followers."<br /><br />Well put, Winston! I sometimes see myself as a lone wolf. You have my utmost respect and admiration for the way you research this history! <br /><br />RussRuss1934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-59175603389208778532010-11-16T10:57:05.259-05:002010-11-16T10:57:05.259-05:00That's why I enjoy your blog so much, Winston ...That's why I enjoy your blog so much, Winston - you don't let anyone tell you what you should say, and you tell it as it is. I applaud the lone wolf and your dedication to exposing the truth!BarefootOkieGalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07482009763166882520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-31830627298612151352010-11-15T15:22:32.506-05:002010-11-15T15:22:32.506-05:00Maintaining certain connections within B&C His...Maintaining certain connections within B&C History, has never been of primary importance to me. However I respect many of these individuals greatly, and always thank them for their assistance. I also have my share of other contacts within this history, which I also respect and appreciate very much.<br /><br />Although some connections may be desirable, they can also be a hindrance. If info is provided with all good graces and no strings attached-- that's fine. But sometimes, the access to info comes with some heavy weights attached. It's a good point to note, that some contacts may actually be too close to the action-- to provide objective information.<br /><br />Some researchers have owed a lot to the families over the years, in providing info for books etc. So when phone calls are made, asking those researchers not to help others-- who are delving into areas they'd rather not face, as I see it-- the families and some around them are hindering independent research. Plus groups such as this are cliques-- whom it seems, try their best to control views only they feel are valid within this history-- and attempt to malign those with differing views and/or who are on the outs with them.<br /><br />Well the good thing for those who follow my research into Bonnie & Clyde History-- is that I don't give 2 hoots or a holler to play the games others would like me to play. I have no interest in being part of any particular groups, and as such-- thankfully I'm not at anyone's mercy. I can't see how being wrapped up in some controlled arena of self importance-- is useful in determining the truth within B&C History.<br /><br />Sometimes, the lone wolf can cover more ground-- than a pack of even the best of friends and followers.A. Winston Woodwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18305418204334632255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-65416113635848491312010-11-15T13:15:50.845-05:002010-11-15T13:15:50.845-05:00Just hang in there and keep bringing us informatio...Just hang in there and keep bringing us information as you find it! While I can understand that maintaining connections with those who are in the best position to know the truth is important to you in your quest, at the same time you keep running into the problem of having to fight to introduce new and perhaps previously unknown information to people who are in no way inclined to change their minds about some things. Well - that's fine, a person's got a perfect right to develop their own viewpoint on something and then cling to it - but I don't think it's right for anyone to obstruct YOUR right to gather information, whether that information jibes with the "official family line" or not.<br /><br />Families don't always know everything that their family members were up to. Families are often loathe to reveal details they find embarrassing or shameful. While a person's family might be the logical source for information of some types, there are better sources for information of other types. I'm sure there are lots of things about most people that even their close family members don't know all about, and I'm sure that Bonnie and Clyde, caring about their families as they did, would NOT share with them every single detail, not wanting to hurt them or to spare them even a little pain and worry. <br /><br />I am not saying the families are wrong, and I can understand their disgust with having been put under a microscope for years and surrounded by morbid curiosity-seekers; however, I don't think it's right to block any truth-seekers - even if the truth is unpleasant, well, the fact is that the families have had to live with a lot of unpleasant things that they KNOW about, and honestly, if I were to discover something bizarre about my own long-lost family members, I'd just take it as something interesting that I didn't know before ("Huh! Well, that would explain why none of Uncle Billy-Bob's kids look like him....)and not automatically take offense. It's just been so long since any of their pecadillos for me to take them personally, but perhaps it's different when your family has made the newspapers... I know some of my ancestors were pretty embarrassing, but I don't know if anyone ever wrote about them!BarefootOkieGalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07482009763166882520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-80176295153283179012010-11-15T08:44:59.171-05:002010-11-15T08:44:59.171-05:00Winston, you are a professional researcher and onl...Winston, you are a professional researcher and only want to find the truth. If Bonnie was actually pregnant at the time, it would have been hushed up as much as possible. In the 1930's, a child out of wedlock would have been a family secret. Maybe the family didn't even know. It's interesting how the LA women were making plans to help Bonnie. Only an exhumation might solve the mystery, but there's little chance of that! Keep up the great work!Francesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699209633460837182.post-36224739119932764002010-11-14T09:28:40.568-05:002010-11-14T09:28:40.568-05:00Keep digging, Winston. With the choice of the unwa...Keep digging, Winston. With the choice of the unwavering, intelligent, and persistence in finding the truth, compared to the "narrow minded, Romper Room" gang, I thank God for the prior choice! Screw the Boogie man. Dig man,dig!davenoreply@blogger.com